Lib Dem Councillor expresses complaint on Facebook

Below is an extract from Facebook taken from the "Lib Dem Gays's Wall".
(Tip -You need to read the posts from the bottom to the top and image and full text extracts are pasted below)

The text is a clear sign that support for the Lib Dems is getting thin on the ground, as demonstrated by Cllr Ward's complaint that "the reasonably attractive men" turn out to be "Tory". Perhaps Cllr Ward should join the Conservative Party where he'd a) be welcome; and b) would find a thriving scene.

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Stephen Harte (University of Edinburgh) wroteat 11:42pm on November 1st, 2007
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5933.htmlThe dreadful Gordon Macdonald was I am ashamed to stay a leading Lib Dem candidate at the Scottish elections earlier this year. If (God forbid) anything was to happen to Ross Finnie MSP, Macdonald would enter Parliament as a gay-bating Lib Dem!
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Tom Clement (UK Parliament) wroteat 4:44pm on October 19th, 2007
Hey Guys 'n' Girls,Please add the Uk Political Parties Application and vote Lib Dem. I'm sure we can make the Lib Dems the biggest party.http://apps.facebook.com/ukpolitics/
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Tom Clement (UK Parliament) wroteat 6:34pm on September 26th, 2007
Hey people, I see one of our number has been nominated for a Stonewall Award:http://delga.org.uk/news/000189/lib_dem_msp_nominated_for_gay_award.html
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Ross Chmiel (Edinburgh) wroteat 1:25pm on July 25th, 2007
Does this mean that we have some straight members in the party? damn!
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David Nikel (West Midlands) wroteat 4:22pm on June 20th, 2007
Pretty crap as expected! I only got back from LA on Monday night so haven't had a chance to get over there yet. I'll be delivering all weekend
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Chris Ward (Surrey) wroteat 4:15pm on June 19th, 2007
David you even bigger gay! How's the byelection going?
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David Nikel (West Midlands) wroteat 3:33pm on June 19th, 2007
Chris you big gay. :)
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Chris Ward (Surrey) wroteat 8:03pm on June 18th, 2007
Actually you're not. Look harder. :P
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Yvonne Aburrow (University of Bath) wroteat 5:23pm on June 18th, 2007
if the term gay includes everyone, how come I'm the only woman on here?
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Chris Ward (Surrey) wroteat 8:15am on June 15th, 2007
It only disgusts you Gettleson cos you wish you thought of it first. ;)
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Mark Gettleson (Cambridge) wroteat 11:45pm on June 14th, 2007
'social group' - you disgust me, Ward ;)
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Jack Ashton (Warwick) wroteat 11:29pm on June 14th, 2007
We stand a reasonable chance of outnumbering the strait lib dems they will be able to claim minority group status. Hi all anyway i am new to this hole face book thing so if i manage to do something terribly wrong or against protocol let me know.
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Chris Ward (Surrey) wroteat 2:27pm on June 14th, 2007
Nah, the other group is a campaigning group. This is more of a social group. :)
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Scott MacDonald (Habs Boys) wroteat 2:20pm on June 14th, 2007
I must say, this group is surprisingly simmilar to : http://hs.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2257151771 .Though, if there are any young gays who work, live or socialise in London then I'd recommend joining the London LGBT Youth Council, check it out at: http://hs.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2297529850
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Chris Ward (Surrey) wroteat 2:03pm on June 14th, 2007
Yes, although I never got a chance to use that shower in the end. Damn.
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Nigel Smith (University of Bristol) wroteat 1:59pm on June 14th, 2007
At last an exalted position in this world that recognises my true potential... ;)
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Chris Ward (Surrey) wroteat 11:58am on June 14th, 2007
Yes. It is. I'm sick of speaking to reasonably attractive men, then half an hour in the conversation finding out they're a Tory.Actually it's more to provide a social scene for the gayers in the Lib Dems.
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Josh Bates (Surrey) wroteat 11:55am on June 14th, 2007
Mr Ward - this your latest way of scouting out talent? And by that I clearly mean political talent.
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The unemployable Ms Doughty - so would you elect her?????

The unemployables: How our former MPs struggle to find work
By STEVE DOUGHTY - Daily Mail

Politicians who lose their seats struggle to make a living in the real world, research has found. The study said employers have little use for former MPs - and some take more than a year to find a job. And those who do manage to find work often complain that they do not earn as much as they did in
Westminster. Others sulk about losing the perks of the Commons.

A careers advice company cited in the report warned that a high percentage of former MPs 'were commercially unemployable at senior management level'.

Only a handful of them could command salaries in the business world that matched their Westminster wages, it added. A high proportion of those who do find work get places on quangos.

One in three of the 180 MPs polled for the report, called Life After Losing Or Leaving, were given public jobs after leaving the Commons.

"Some former MPs struggled to find work and many earned less after leaving the House of
Commons," said the report by Professor Kevin Theakston and his team at Leeds University.
"Around half of those who did not retire voluntarily from the Commons said it had taken three to six months to find a new job.
"Just one fifth said they were able to find work immediately or almost immediately. One in seven took a year to find employment.
"Many had difficulty adapting to life in the outside world, and felt isolated from the political party to which they had devoted much of their lives."

One former MP told researchers: "New jobs are not easy to come by. Some expertise in another area than politics is usually necessary."

Another said: "Many MPs do not appreciate that their skills on entering Parliament will not be
relevant when they leave."

And a third warned: "You are effectively unemployable and trained for nothing in the outside
world."

Sue Doughty, a LibDem MP who was defeated in Guildford in the 2005 election, registered as unemployed, the report said. She was "ordered to report for a suitability-to-work interview by the benefits office she had opened
only the year before."

The careers company which examined the CVs of 127 rejected Tory MPs after the 1997 election
said: "Anyone hoping to reach the higher levels of business and the City who then spends time in an environment such as Parliament puts their chances of getting a top management job in serious jeopardy."

Only four had any chance of getting a job paying £100,000 a year or more - the kind of salary
necessary to match an MP's package of £60,277 pay and hugely generous perks.

Some former MPs were disenchanted after leaving the Commons, the university study found.
One called working outside politics "demeaning". Another said: "It's a hard, cold, unforgiving world outside Westminster." And one commented: "No expenses for motor driving, no secretary, no parking space." But for one in three of the former MPs consulted for the report, life after Westminster included election to councils, the European Parliament, devolved assemblies, or jobs in the public sector or with quangos. Nine took jobs with NHS boards. Other organisations which employed former politicians included the Historic Buildings Council, the UN, the Home Office, the Police Complaints Authority, the Heritage Lottery Fund, the EU, Sport England, the Affordable Rural Housing Commission, and the Committee on Standards in Public Life. Some complained that they were forced to leave their Commons offices too quickly after election defeat. Former MPs are given a week to quit the Commons.

Others said they should get publicly-subsidised job retraining on top of their redundancy and pension packages.

The report said that some rejected MPs had to deal with "nervous breakdown, divorce, heart disease, alcoholism, depression, serious debt and even suicide."

Golden parachute failure

Who cut the strings?


Vivienne Johnson has failed in her attempt to be parachuted into a seat in Holy Trinity Ward which became available after the death of the incumbent Lib Dem.

She lost the by-election by 166 votes, a massive reversal from the 100 vote majority the Lib Dems enjoyed back in May.




Now the Lib Dem recriminations will begin!

Did the campaign fail because of the young upstarts who ran it in the early stages?

Or was it that Vivienne wanted to exercise too much control over the campaign once she was selected?

Or perhaps it was the fact the Lib Dems are now rudderless following the political death of Sir Ming?

Or was it just the last minute negative leaflet that put many voters off?

Who knows, but one thing is correct, having been rejected in the Christchurch Ward that she represented for 16 years and now in Holy Trinity, Vivienne Johnson is starting to look like a serial election loser. But let's not underestimate her, one ex Lib Dem candidate once christened her the "Princess of Darkness" - and like all good horror films the villain often returns from the dead.

Guildford Lib Dems are used car salesmen.

Residents in Guildford's Holy Trinity Ward are being offered the following:

One clapped out old banger, 16 years of service, dumped by previous owners on the side of the road after they went and got themselves a newer model.

Missing picture? Lib Dems delete evidence

For those of you who wonder why their is an image missing in the post below, the answer is that it came from a link to Sue Doughty's website from where the image has now been deleted.

Foolishly I didn't take a copy of it, but I guess it would be Lib Dem copyright.

I can but speculate as to why it may have been deleted. But the image did happen to show Sue Doughty trudging round the site of the foot and mouth outbreak in Normandy. As stated in the original post, this was a higly irresponsible act, in particular as it also encouraged the media circus to trudge around the infected area as well.

I did however manage to get a thumbnail copy of this blogs page from Google's cache, I have blown this up below. Can you make out the carrot top women in a green jacket talking to police officers by what looks like traffic cones and blue no entry signs? This seems to be the only trace of this image remaining. Perhaps the Lib Dems fearing their stupidity would cause a backlash amongst farmers thought it better to remove the image.

Foot in Mouth: lame candidate spotted at infected farm

Clearly bio-security measures and the risk of transferring infected soil round Surrey should never get in the way of a good story (I mean chance for self promotion).

Here is Guildford's lame Lib Dem Candidate spotted at the foot and mouth outbreak. Perhaps some blistering words are ruminating from her mouth.

Caught behind the bike sheds! More Lib Dem hypocrisy

A fun article from the BBC which exposes the continuing hypocrisy of the Lib Dems.
Apparently Charles Kennedy was caught smoking on a train, despite having supported the smoking ban.